Any reviews of Constantine? March 7, 2005 Constantine? What did ye think? I thought it showed some fatherneo moments…
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Buenas noches Padre Neo. I have two questions for you. First: Do you believe this pictorial from the movie paints a somewhat accurate or representative portrait of Hell? In other words, do you take Hell literally–fire and brimstone so to speak as a place of torment and punishment? Origen (185 – 254) says, “Stronger than all the evils in the soul is the Word, and the healing power that dwells in Him, and this healing He applies, according to the will of God, to everyman.” Second: What do you say to Origen across the bridge of time? Is he your brother or a heretic?
I have heard the lament before and now know what it means, “This isn’t a blog, it’s a meeting!” You guys want others in your conversation, include us by taking a little time to give context to your cryptic messages. It will take more time, of course. You may have to characterize Origen’s thought, or at least part of it. You may have to remind those in the know that you are referring to a movie that is currently in the theatres. Finally, you may have to be more simple and direct in your discussions. Imagine that there are more than two of you in the room, and that some of the onlookers are not theologians or seminary grads.
Kevin, you’re right, this place can be a little cryptic. Origen is reputed to have written a great deal, including writing that all would be saved at the Last Day, which is, of course, considered heretical to Christianity through the ages.
Fr. Neo address this a little in a later post (“One hell of a question”) when he says, “To paraphrase Bishop Kallistos, it is presumption to expect God to save everyone, but we can surely hope and pray that he does!” This is the actual position of the Orthodox, as far as I understand it. (I could be wrong) Some of the Fathers have even been know to pray for the demons — like St. Isaac the Syrian Fr. Neo’s aformentioned post. Crazy stuff. In fact, Orthodox generally do not even presume upon God to utter the words “I’m saved,” simply because of the hubris and pride involved in such a statement. This was very interesting to me to learn, and a seemingly sensible way to live. I cannot presume to fully know the Almighty God. This reluctance has caused some of our more “name it, claim it” bretheren to regard the Orthodox as lost, where the Orthodox would consider their pride in the claim dangerous.
For more on Origen, you can learn a great deal at the New Catholic Encyclopedia’s entry on “Origen and Origenism”
If I have contributed to the cryptic messages here please accept my apologies. I’m sure as hell no theologian, so if there is anything cryptic about my posts it must originate from poor syntax. The theologian seems to be jholder (and of course Padre Neo). I’ve been waiting for jholder to come crashing down like a sentinel on the many poorly constructed straw men I’ve put forth here, but thus far he’s refrained. He must be a gentleman. I meant the other night to ask you Kevin about a particular comment from one of your posts, but slumber beckoned. So here goes my belated question. You said, “I am aware of living in Zion as the walls come tumbling down.” Elaborate if you would please. I’m curious. By the way, I too have suspected a prevalent prevenient grace in my life, but true to my curse that suspicion invariably gives way to other questions.
Being cryptic and esoteric is why the white rabbit is so fun to chase!